Villain : Killed ton of people.
Also villain : OH NO! Hero actually kill us!? Such evil! Unforgivable!

The logic is so japan.

"oh i'm going to kill people for fun and I have a very dangerous quirk that can kill half of Japan in 2 weeks, but if i was facing heroes, they shouldn't kill, but apprehend me and not hurt me, but if they have no other choice but to kill because i made it so hard for the hero to subdue me, they're wrong and they deserve hell."

Why did they even join the villains then, they knew Shigaraki's goals but still decided to follow him, Stain's idealogy and Shigaraki's are completely different.

The logic of of this anime is so askew lol.. I get that stains credo made sense taking out the hypocrites and fakes but shigaraki is just kill kill kill what the hell do they have that makes so many want to follow them.. don't give us this crappy emotional scenes about the evil doers. Japan twisting things up could drive a person crazy. Still gotta love how midoriya is starting to shine but I don't think we'll see him step up to the world level of allmight this season.

It's just toga because she's kinda like insane that's why she thinks like that

It's rather skewed logic. All of them have been done wrong by society which drove them to the brink of madness. So I'm pretty sure even they don't full understand their own thought process. All they simply want is society to change, even if it mean destroying it all to rebuild. Toga is an extreme case cause it's her quirk that makes her who she is, and she was rejected by society because of it. She simply wants to be herself but she really can't without hurting others, and she sees it as unfair that she has to choose between being herself or conform for everyone else's sake. And it's true, it's an unfair choice

It's a YES and NO situation for Toga...
Yes the society wronged her and made her feel like an outcast
Also her quirk problem could've been fixed fast and simple by society again ...
Go to A hospital do some tests on what kind of blood does she like , then go to a blood bank and buy or work something out like daily/weekly/monthly packages of blood that they can store at home.
No cuz she really didn't really made any effort to change till this day ...

All of them haven't been wronged, some were offered help but most chose a different path full of anger. They don't want society to change, they just want to rule and create chaos by any means necessary. Toga can be herself without hurting others but she like hurting others, she doesn't need to kill or hurt people in order to survive. She can use her quirk just fine in battle without hurting anyone. Everyone that has a quirk hero or not has to conform, they have to make sure they can control their quirks not just for themselves but for others. You just being soft on her cause she's a girl, who gave that crap of a sob story about fitting in when she never tried, she just wants to run wild. I don't feel sorry for her at all, nor any of her fellow villains.

That reminds me of homer simpson's logic of "you are just as bad as me, and you used to be better, so that makes you worse "

It actually gets on my nerves. The audacity these villains have to want to feel angry about heroes killing them when they themselves kill people with no remorse. Toga especially pissed me off this episode. Killed an old lady just to ask a pointless question.

it has always ticked me off how toga is such a hypocrite. I totally get that she´s pissed that twice was killed, after all he and the whole league of villains are the family that she always wished for, it wasn´t her fault having her quirk and being rejected by society because her quirk wasn´t very "hero like" which is load of bull if you ask me, but then she´s like yeah my quirk is really wierd, let me twist completely my sense of love and fucking kill innocent people, then i´ll join a terrorist group and aid in the ascend of the most powerful being in the world and help him destroy eveything because i was rejected. now that´s just taking it too far, and then she dosen´t understand why there being targeted and killed. this whole toga arc of wanting to play the moral ground against the heros was better executed with characters like twice, hawks and later on lady nagant(in particular nagant, you anime only watchers are in for a treat when you meet her), and toga really just comes off as a deranged murderer, such a waste of potential.

She is insane/mentally ill, she doesn't understand that what she does is wrong. She only seems to have empaty for those she cares about. That's why she get's angry at the 'you killed her just for that'.
She's pretty much broken becasue she was outcast instead of recieving special care, so she is a broken monster made by an uncaring society.
The others are mostly mad becasue killing is not herolike. They hate the hero society. They hate the hero centered world and the commercialisation of heroes.
Someone calling himself a hero and then killing someone is a hipocrite, as it goes aganist their rules.
Additionally they are probalby all villans because they broke rules, yet those heroes get away with that.

Finally shigaraki and nana her grandma finally met but he still hate her grandma

that´s why the standar of hero society is disgusting, and really it just get´s worse later on in the anime, without spoiling, the amount of hypocrisy the society created by heroes is capable of is really infuriating

U realize its not appropriate to drain ur friend's blood and drink him with a straw to the point of unconsciousness right. Cuz that was the unacceptable quirk related thing she did.

yeah i know, what she did really is just messed up, like the guy above mention, when she awakened her quirk and her parents realized the potential danger she could be, they supressed her instead of getting the help she needed before it was too late, now after that incident and all the murders she has committed afterwards have put her in a state beyond saving in my opinion, i don´t believe she should be killed but instead locked up, but it really isn´t surprisng if she gets herself killed by resisiting like twice did.

I get that but this is new waters, In hindsight you can say that route X was best but in the moment....
Anyhoo, that aside she is certifiably a psychopath but that doesn't mean her life is worth nothing. At the same time she personifies her beliefs violently, so her clashing with ppl could mean her end/ alot of victims.
Glad you didn't give me the braindead answers I keep seeing tho.

Glad you agree in the fact that she’s really dangerous and although heroes according to their standards should apprehend her, she will be terminated if her constant pursuit for validation keeps hurting innocent people (which in fact it does, shocking right heh).

that logic is so US, killing and destroying every country possible, but as soon as a country retaliates or kills a citizen, then they antagonize them.

Sounds more like Russia buddy

LOL somebody has their panties in a twist. I guess the U.S. just lives rent free in your head huh.

glad that im not the only one that can tolerate this BS

What I hate the most is Heroes: Oh look this villain killed a lot of people and is still a danger to a lot more people, let's lock him up and hope he doesn't escape.

Ikr. Weed it out.

That's just dumbass Toga logic, I hope she actually gets punished for everything she did

To be fair, Toga is a Psychopath?

If uraraka just said she wouldn't kill toga then she wouldn't get angry like this

i think her quirk makes her obsessive with blood and people dont cosider her normal

Lol she must be fun at that time of the month

She's not. Her quirk shapes her personality. Her backstory confirms it.

but thats what the lefties do all the time, exactly like that victim blaming when they cause the economy to fall by voting in corruption then blames it on others.

Yup. They want enough power to do unto others while remaining untouchable from all reproach and criticism.

Killing is never justified… being against the ideology of the society makes u a villain.. this someone gives u the right to kill him cuz hes a „villain“
Anime logic= totally fine.. and then add a huge plot armor around heros.. except for the 5 sec introduced heroes, they can die 👌

Actually thats not how it works if Nazi's were training ppl to all be like them and follow their ideology the one against society is not a villain only to the one enforcing the belief. She is a villain because she choose to go against the grain for selfish reasons that are negative. My issue is they believe heros are not suppose to kill after they kill. Thats like Real life armies not shooting to kill after other terrorist or armies shoot at them.

she has the ability to be an Anti Hero like Deadpool or Punisher heck even stain but she choose to be a hypocrite. Which is why no one feel for her. Killing is justified if your life is put on the line you have right to kill to stop them and save others from dying it is what it is. Its only not liked if its no reasoning to go that extra mile.

Hitler would give you that reason immediately.

Yey next episode is about dabi saying about something

I agree. Police brutality for violent/dangerous armed criminals in a nutshell.

Sure they're hypocritical but I don't think that's the point here. It's the fact that heroes, who are supposedly these allies of justice, would do the same treacherous acts that these villains themselves normally do (a.k.a. killing). How, then are heroes any different from villains? If they do the same things, why are heroes treated with respect while the villains with contempt?

Oh, but this is not to justify the villains' actions though. It's just to offer perspective to not outright reject the villains. But then again, perhaps it's better to not understand the villains. Perhaps outright rejecting them would be better. After all, we're just ordinary people; we're not heroes and we do not have the obligation to save them.

How is the heroes and villains the same. They are killing criminals if worst comes to worst to save lives but even then they would prefer to apprehend the villains instead of killing them. Comparing that to killing civilians is so out of this world logic. How do you even come to that conclusion.. These villains are just out of logic and hate the world and they try to justify their actions in their own messed up way.

No matter who was killed, murder is murder. But yeah, you pointed out where they're different.

Are you arguing a serial killer mentally deranged runaway girl?

Well for most villains and most people who turned villain..is that at max they will be sentenced to some prison or punished...because heroes are too weak to actually kill them while they dont have the same restriction on them. And that knowing, that the Hero would always pull their punches because they dont want to kill or even maim, makes them all so much braver in their counter attacks. And then hearing that piece of information that a hero deliberately killed a villain is bound to shake them up, make them afraid.

Case in point, Getan (Ice guy) vs Cementoss. Getan would have no problem in freezing heroes in ice even if they die either from freezing or lack of oxygen. While Cementoss even when enveloping Getan in cement, would have left a air bubble or a small passage for air breathing, enough to make them faint but not die. Now just think if even 5% of the villains were killed during the Mansion fight, the villains would have turned tails, because they fear loosing their lives instead of heroes, who knows losing their life is part of their work.

Lol what a logic hahaha

MHA villians in a nutshell, execpt twice I wanted that man to live so bad.

Yep. Thats what I was gonna say.

as if any of them are sane bro it makes perfect sense for them to be selfish like that I mean... that was obvious from the start especially the younger ones

It is the same kind of twisted logic that some gangsters, terrorists or rioters have, that anything done by the group is justified in some way while any opposition given to them by outside force is unforgivable.

Yeah but keep in mind is not very mentaly stable. Doesn't make it better but for her that logic makes sense.

Hypocrites are just that annoying. What can I say.

No, the logic is that she's insane. She's a villain/criminal, and just like in real life, they complain about the heroes (police in this case) whenever they take lives even when they've done something deserving of death. Obviously there are valid cases of police injustice in the world, but some claim victim regardless of the circumstances

or maybe just dumb narrative